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Lesson From Kennedy-Nixon Debate

17 Friday Sep 2010

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Recently, I read an article on the Kennedy-Nixon Debate that occurred fifty years ago. I have always heard that Nixon won in substance, but Kennedy won in style/charisma. Whether this is the case or not, I do not know. But, what came to mind when I read the article (Newsmax, “The Misunderstood Debate,” September 2010, p. 50) was the importance of debate. Debate forums are good opportunities to allow interested people to learn differences in positions that are contrary to one another. In fact, I think debates are great and encourage participation in them frequently.

When I speak of debate, I do not mean a bunch of people fussing haphazardly in a chaotic and unorganized way. What I mean is a properly organized forum where two participants can present their material over an agreed upon proposition. In such venues, those who listen can learn volumes of information in short order.

Such propositions that are worthy of debates are: 1) I know God exists. 2) The church of which I am a member is the church one reads about in the New Testament. 3) Morality has its basis in God. 4) Water baptism in the name of Christ is essential for salvation. Each one of the propositions is either true or false. A participant can affirm, and then the other participant can deny the affirmation.

Some are uncomfortable with debates because they seem unseemly, especially if one is a Christian. While I understand such sentiment, it is misplaced. The apostle Paul made it a habit to go into the Jewish synagogues and “reason” with the Jews concerning the Scriptures and what they taught. Whatever unseemly notion might be associated with debate will always be connected to the participants, not the forum. Thus, we should encourage formal debates for the benefit of those interested in two contrary and opposing ideas.

A letter to editor submitted to Sullivan News-Progress, 9/16/10

What A Compliment! (3)

12 Sunday Sep 2010

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In truth, debates are actually good and productive, and the words of the Baptist preacher should encourage reconsideration. When the Lord walked on this earth he forthrightly challenged the error that was preached in his day. While the Lord exhibited much compassion, his confrontational approach is something to be emulated. The people of Jesus’ day were amazed at the authority by which he spoke (Matthew 7:28-29), and they took note that the religious leaders were frightened by him also (John 7:26, 46; 12:42-43). They had good reason to be for when a person hears the truth, the purveyors of error lose influence. Truth has nothing to fear. Now, more than ever, is the time to preach the word (2 Timothy 4:2) and “reason” publicly and/or privately with those that hold positions that are contrary to the Scriptures (Acts 20:7; 17:2-5). Let us encourage this effort.

Some think that public oral debates are of little to no value for today’s society, but I have never subscribed to that way of thinking. Debates and debate books have been very influential to me in my own growth. It is difficult to have our individual ways of thinking challenged; it is for you, it is for me, and it was for those who lived during the first century. As we seek to know the truth of God’s word and help others to make an application, let us be strong enough to allow our ways of thinking to be critically examined. What does truth have to fear? Debates are an honorable venue for the investigation of truth. As men of God we must controlled by God’s truth (Galatians 2:20); The Lord’s truth needs men who will be firm and Christ like in ALL regards.

What A Compliment! (2)

10 Friday Sep 2010

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In this apology, he stated a reason why some refuse to debate any longer. It is the opinion of some that debates have declined in frequency because there is no interest in them. Perhaps this true, but is there another reason why debates have waned over the years? In accordance with the sentiments of the apology, there is another reason; maybe we can call this the real reason. Some potential participants in the debate setting do not want what is considered true to be put through critical examination alongside an opposite view. When the truth is held up for discussion and an opposite view is the opponent, the opponent will be shown to hold a position not true. When such occurs, it is not long before the error loses influence with people interested in truth.

Preachers who proclaim error, especially after it has been exposed, care little for debates any longer. Their congregants, after the hearing of truth, become more interested in truth and the influence of the preacher wanes. The Baptist preacher, apparently, did not want to take his conviction into this environment and allow it to be critically examined. He did not want another to have an opportunity to show him to be mistaken in his view. In the apology he offered for his withdrawal, he actually paid a compliment to the process and those who support the process. Since truth holds firm when attacked, those who hold positions contrary to truth decide it is in their best interest to no longer enter controversial engagements. The Baptist preacher who withdrew from the debate actually concedes that our debates are doing much good in that many are converted to the truth of the Bible by these discussions. “As I said, I had reservations after considering that putting my name to this debate would draw people to the CoC [church of Christ] organization’s doctrine. Most up north do not know of your group, and I do not want to introduce them to it.” This, in effect, says that the position he once held to could not hold up when scrutiny came from biblical examination. Again, this compliment (although backhanded) given to the Lord’s people is worthy of note. Some may think that discussions of this sort hold the interest of few people anymore; in truth, however, there is another reason why these types of discussion no longer continue as they once did, and the remarks of the Baptist preacher makes this clearer.

The last in the series will be tomorrow.

What A Compliment! (1)

09 Thursday Sep 2010

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Each person has a particular way in which he learns best. Some learn best by way of visuals such as power point presentations, images on a television screen, and things of this sort. Others learn best by shear effort at perseverance in reading difficult material and others, still, learn best through controversy (debates). This latter is a good way for me to learn. I learn when issues are analyzed and proponents of issues are put through the “crucible” of controversy or critical examination. Oral debates and debate books are very useful tools in learning because we learn not only what particular issues divide people, but also how the individual issues stand up to scrutiny. I value the debates I have in book form, and when I am old and gray, these books will still be on my shelf for they will certainly keep my mind active.

Not long ago (April 2009), I traveled to the Chicago area (Schaumburg) for a public oral debate on an issue that divided two religious men; that issue was the nature of man in relationship to God’s saving grace. Before I arrived, I received a courtesy call from the local preacher about one of the participant’s withdrawal from the debate (a Baptist preacher). I learned that he withdrew because he could no longer defend the proposition he signed to defend. After receiving the call, I reflected on two things: first, it was disappointing that he withdrew on a Thursday before the debate was to begin the following Monday; second, it was good that the denominational preacher had actually learned that the position he agreed to defend did not measure up to the truth of God’s word, and thus was indefensible.

Because the debate was so near to time of start, the Baptist preacher sent a letter of apology to the local preacher and the other participant in the debate. I was fortunate enough to read that letter of apology, and took special note of what he said. As it turns out, the Baptist preacher was strongly encouraged by another Baptist preacher not to be involved in the debate, and it was not because of the weakness of the proposition he signed on to defend. The reason he was encouraged strongly against participation was along this line: “…my reservations about the debate were confirmed when he [his preacher friend] warned me not to go through with the debate. He pastored down south where your group is larger, and he said one method for drawing converts is through these debates. I spoke with others who cofirmed [sic] this.”

This is the first of a three part series. Be sure to look for parts two and three to read the conclusion of this piece.

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